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Who’s Buying Starbucks With Food Stamps?

by Erika Nicole Kendall

So, this was posted, and then my head exploded:

 

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With the help of Jackie Fowler, who has a “supplemental nutrition card” or Oregon Trail Card, Fox 12 visited an in-store Starbucks within a Safeway in the town of Salem. Fowler purchased a tall Frappuccino and a slice of pumpkin bread — and paid for both using her Oregon Trail card.”It’s crazy,” Fowler told Fox 12, showing off the receipt for $5.25.

“They’re overpriced as it is,” said Fowler of the specialty drink. “That’s money that somebody could be eating with — a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk.” Fowler, who made the purchase only for the purpose of Fox 12’s story, says she thinks it’s a huge misuse of the food assistance program.

A spokesman for Safeway told Fox 12 the store recently made the change as an added convenience to customers.

“We think that compliance with state laws is something we can easily do,” Dan Floyd told Fox 12.

According to federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) guidelines, people cannot buy foods that will be eaten in the store or hot foods. However, luxury items that are allowed include soft drinks, candy, cookies, ice cream, even bakery cakes and energy drinks that have a nutrition facts label.

First, let’s be clear, here, on a few things. There are currently around 46 million people on food stamps, at the last numbers I saw from this summer. There are somewhere around 39 million Black people in this country. Even if every single Black person in America – yes, even those lovely 1%ers – were on food stamps, there’d still be 6 million more people for which we’d need to account. I say this for a very specific reason.

With unemployment at 8.6 percent, that means that approximately 13.3 million people who are eligible for employment are, in fact, unemployed. If only 13 million people in this country are unemployed, yet 46 million people are on food stamps, I think it’s safe to say there may be a few income-generating, tax-paying employees of somebody’s company in that 46 mill. The recipients of SNAP benefits are not, in fact, all some form of unemployed leech. There’s a reason why I start off with this, as well.

Let’s talk logistics, briefly. When I lived in Miami Beach, I didn’t see Starbucks in the area where I lived. There was one single Starbucks north of Lincoln Mall (16th; numbers go up the further north you go), and that was on 45th. Beyond that? Nada. (I even checked Google Maps because I genuinely can’t remember any. If you care, you can see for yourself.)  Hell, you look at any area in central Miami-proper – Little Havana, Little Haiti, take your pick – know what you see? You certainly don’t see Starbucks. That’s not coincidence. That’s strategy.

Starbucks, much like Whole Foods, is strategic with where they’re putting their establishments. They’re not going to put a Starbucks in, say, inner inner city Brooklyn, where people can get coffee for $0.75 a pop and couldn’t care less whether or not you get whipped cream or a caramel frappiato (I wouldn’t know what it’s called; I’ve never ordered from one.) Even I could see how that’d be a bad business move. You don’t put businesses who charge luxury prices for every day items in places where people have a difficult time affording the necessities of life. Not because it’s “wrong” morally to charge what you want, but simply because when forced to choose, it’s highly likely that your business is the one that’d lose.

But wait… there’s more.

The people who want to conflate this kind of spending with “buying luxury items like properly raised meats and cheeses,” can stop. Any moment now. I defend the “food stamps at whole foods” crowd because properly raised foods should never be considered a “luxury” in a country proudly billing itself as the richest in the world. Any person who looks at their budget and genuinely finds that they, after having already seen that they qualify for assistance, have a difficult time affording food, should consider applying… and I’m serious. The fact that our fruits and vegetables are grown the way they are – farm labor resembling indentured servitude; meat having to be cleaned with ammonia just to make sure you don’t get too much e.coli in your purchase; pesticides; chemicals, fake flavorings and fillers – is what results in our adulterated food supply. It is not food. It is “food facsimiles” or even “edible foodlike substances,” and a person who wants to eat the way they are supposed to shouldn’t be chastised for such simply because you struggle with justifying spending the money on you and yours. We are in a bad way, as a country, if we can look people in the eye and tell them actual food is a “luxury” and if they don’t like it, they should “have a coke and a smile.” Ridiculous.

Here… is my point, in all its glory. Even though I defend, adamantly, the “food stamps at whole foods” users, this annoys the hell out of me. Not because a mocha choca latta yaya is as “non-essential” or “non-vital” as it gets, but because of the negativity it casts on both food stamp users and Black women. You know what I mean. Because of Reagan, we constantly see food stamp recipients as poor, black, female, unmarried, single parent, whatever. Maybe it’s because I’ve never ordered from a Starbucks, but… this isn’t an inner-inner-city phenom, if you ask me. I’m pretty grossed out by this altogether. However, I feel like this affects college students or “starving artist” types, both of which by and large do not fit the stereotype that President Reagan left us with when he referred to the “welfare queen.” When we think of “food stamps,” we think of “poor people.” When we think of poor people, we think of Black people. And, even though this country (and its wealth) was built on our backs, we’re considered lazy freeloaders by way of our gene pool. Journalistic efforts like this are merely used to further the stereotype. “‘Mack-eye-ah-toes‘ on the taxpayer dime?” Why, how dare you?

I also can’t say that a single person who has read this story, pictured a “starving artist” or a “college student” in line at Starbucks – the ones I suspect would most benefit from this knowledge – holding out their EBT card and asking for pumpkin bread. Instead, they probably saw some Black chick with fresh finger waves and a baby on her hip, holding a EBT card in the hand holding her baby and a brand new iPhone 4s in the other, yelling out “Can I get one of those frah-pah-key-know things?” and telling’ her child, “Shut up, Lil LaNayNay, I’m tryna get my drink on!”

And that, right there, is what annoys me about this the most of all.

Every time I see an “investigative” report about SNAP/food stamps, it’s painted as “look at what these [assumedly Black, always Black] freeloaders [because freeloaders have to be Black, amirite?] are doing? See why we need to change this?” All due respect to those of you who give enough of a damn to do this kind of reporting, but are you bothering to ask why a person can get a coffee for $3, and it’s still cheaper than a full head of fresh broccoli? Are you bothering to ask why our government can subsidize the creation of most of the garbage in this country that’s making us sick, but not subsidize the grocery stores to allow them to sell produce to SNAP recipients at discounted rates? Is that worthy of coverage, or would you rather exploit the weaknesses of the [working] poor, because no one is going to defend them? Would you simply rather highlight “omg, it’s possible to shop at Starbucks with taxpayer money” because it’s not interesting enough to prove that the more egregious fiscal faux-pas are happening far higher up the pay scale? Or maybe because you don’t want to remind the “middle class” just how “lower” they truly are?

Listen. I’m all up for some journalistic muckraking. I’m even up for “picking on” the government. I’m not, however, down with beating up on poor people because there’s a loophole that most of them don’t even have access to in order to take advantage of it. It reeks of “slow news day.” Do your job and cover something more interesting. Start with this. Go.

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36 comments

Tachae December 5, 2011 - 11:02 AM

I’m sharing this without a doubt on my Facebook, because sadly the people I know who believe more in the “welfare queen” are black men. :/

Jennifer December 5, 2011 - 11:16 AM

I don’t know where to start with this. I work for WIC, the “other supplemental food and nutrition program”. As part of the working poor (with 1.5 jobs a child and being a student), I think the SNAP and WIC programs need to be revamped. WIC isn’t a strict as SNAP and I see many families on the program. That isn’t my problem, we know that people sell their checks, buy Capn Crunch instead of Cheerios and a lot of people don’t use the fruit and veggie checks or the farmer’s mkt vouchers. I despise how we push milk and cheese as nutrition and only give $10 for women and $6 for children to purchase produce. The program has improved some since the produce and whole grain checks were introduced in 2009 but we have a long way to go.

Erika, I believe you’re right, SNAP and WIC definitely aren’t a “black thing” but people associate it with black folk. I guess I needed to vent… I apologize, lol:)

Lara December 5, 2011 - 11:53 AM

I love this piece. It is sad but true, the image we get when we hear of EBT recipients. But when I’m in line at the grocery store, I see more people (that are not black) loaded up with all the sodas and chips the store has to offer and one or two overweight little kids using their cards. smh

Susan Jorden June 19, 2012 - 8:45 PM

IM not black but I love the articles here …. but on the food stamp thing .I do believe that even the poorest are entitle to have a few extra treats .I mean starbucks and such is a little over board but honestly when a person has to live with out allot of things due to poverty ..using food stamps for soda and such is not a bad thing ..as long as they not going over board and not getting good food .. even the poorest deserve a little Debbies cake ..really !!

Kait December 5, 2011 - 3:18 PM

AMEN.

CAROL December 5, 2011 - 6:45 PM

The only thing that the government programs are concerned about and the bottom line of most things is money. The more junk people eat the more likely they will have bad health which means that there will be money to gain for the doctors and so called health providers. Then the insurance companies will make the decision from their offices as to how much treatment the person should have. Its all a money game.

Ethel December 5, 2011 - 4:19 PM

I used to work at a grocery store and most of the people who came there with food stamps (back then it was still the books) were NOT black(or naturalized citizens)! And did I mention this store was smack dab in the middle of the hood? Me comming from a household that was not on welfare (and it was the same for my mother) I was still shocked by this.

But I have another gripe. A woman came through my line with about $100 worth of candy. I (at the time I was a teenager) was furious! Is that what it’s used for? REALLY? SMH

Tammy December 5, 2011 - 10:01 PM

Ok, maybe it’s because I was a case manager for the snap program, but i most certainly did NOT picture a black woman purchasing starbucks….I know for a fact that food stamp recipients are across the spectrum….black, white, Asian, old, young, single and married. What people forget is that many people had a job, a life, and material goods BEFORE they qualified for food stamps. The amount a family of four get per month is less than 600.00 and that’s IF they qualify for the whole grant, which a lot of people don’t. Hardly a champagne and caviar budget. A lot of recipients ARE single moms….single moms working two jobs and paying huge daycare bills for the privilege. And let’s not forget having to lose time from those two jobs for the application process. They work two jobs because child support is either not enforced, not received, or not enough. While I don’t think Starbucks is the right way to use food stamps, if the person in question qualifies, and the purchase they made is legal, who the hell’s business is it what a person buys! And I agree with the bigger picture…food stamps encourages food-like purchases….food like substances ARE cheaper. And that is more wrong than buying a piece of pumpkin bread and a fancy coffee. Stories like that and people who jump on the “my tax dollar” bandwagon don’t realize that with this economy we are all just one, two, or a few paychecks away from the same damned thing!!!! The iortant thing is we all have to give up preconceived notion of who deserves what. No one in this country deserves to have to make the choice between paying the light bill versus feeding their kids. (sorry, this is a sore topic for me! LOL!)

Jennifer December 6, 2011 - 11:38 AM

I totally agree! People come into WIC with $25 a month in SNAP. Who on earth can eat right AND stretch $25 a month for a family? I apparantly work just enough that I don’t. Qualify for SNAP. However if I did I would use it and dare someone to talk about “taxpayer” dollars to me!

Eva December 6, 2011 - 1:16 PM

Tammy, you made the perfect point: Some people just don’t think that others deserve nice things.

Tyler Tinsley December 6, 2011 - 10:32 AM

Damn the frappiatos full speed ahead!

sorry…

Erika Nicole Kendall December 6, 2011 - 1:21 PM

LOL

Jondrea Smith December 6, 2011 - 12:05 PM

Thank you for this, especially in this climate of accusations of Hawaii trips paid for by the food-stamp program. It’s refreshing to see people not internalizing the vile stereotypes put forth by a ‘certain end’ of the political spectrum.

Kelekona December 7, 2011 - 7:44 AM

I imagine that anyone who would get a Starbuck’s on foodstamps is someone who recently got on food stamps and was used to getting Starbuck’s before. Having familiar treats can help combat the depression of having your status quo shifted. And I doubt that they have the budget to get something like that more than once or twice a month.

Perhaps instead of letting these people make decisions about what they want to buy, we should just be delivering boxes of food selected by a committee. Nevermind that some households want to focus on pasta because they can’t cook rice without burning it, or if they find pre-breaded chicken patties to be gross.

KalleyC December 11, 2011 - 11:10 PM

Amen! It seems like we will never get past the created image of the “welfare queen” thanks to Reagan. I am sure that there are tons of people abusing the system, but I feel like if people want to being up ill uses with these things, they do need to find out why Broccoli is more expensive.

Angered Barista December 16, 2011 - 7:01 PM

Where I’m from, I generally picture a Hispanic woman with 4 kids using wic or snap. And I’m hispanic. What angers me is there aren’t enough limitations to food stamps and snap. And people misuse the system irregardless of race and color and any other ethnicity. I’m sorry, but you should not be able to buy a full sheet $50 birthday cake on tax payer dime, and yes that has happened before. I am a manager of one of the licensed Safeway Starbucks. I don’t think people on food stamps should be reduced to eating ramen noodles all the time, but I do t get any discount or handout on Starbucks and I don’t think anyone should, (besides being in the rewards program and the benefits along with that). I think the government should be spending our tax money digging us out of the multi trillion dollar deficit this administration has dug us in. I also think the author of this article should get the racist chip off her shoulder and quit assuming everyone sees “poor” as “black”.

Erika Nicole Kendall December 16, 2011 - 7:29 PM

This is so stupid.

You mean to tell me that in a society that finds it acceptable to fantasize about what it’d be like to be a poor black kid and basically imply that the reason why those kids don’t succeed is because they’re lazy, the SAME argument that HAS been said about Blacks in this country for centuries; the same country where its praised writers fantasize about “studying intelligence amongst the races” IN TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN, and refuse to be talked down from this; the same country where it’s perfectly acceptable for candidates for office to say “I don’t want to give Black people your money” in regards to closing down medicare and social security, knowing DAMN well whites make up at LEAST 79% of that user base…

You mean it’s only racist when a BLACK woman points this shit out?

Damn! White people get ALL the luck out here!

The fact that you put ANY race on the use of food stamps let’s me know more than what I need to know about you, “Hispanic” or not. Maybe you should think about that before you try to identify what kind of chip I have on my shoulder.

PS: We were in a deficit with President BUSH, who came in with a surplus, long before President Obama. Keep that talking point shit off my site, kid.

Tachae December 16, 2011 - 7:42 PM

You just proved her point by saying you picture a Hispanic woman when you think of a welfare recipient.
secondly,YOUR assumption about the lack of the welfare queen stereotype speaks on your lack of experience of having to constantly hear it. Trust me, the author is not “assuming ” black means poor.

Nah January 23, 2012 - 8:56 PM

Your point is only valid if you agree with her! I worked my way through college stocking shelves and working the register in a grocery store. WIC and Food Stamp fraud was RAMPANT. We used to have to put big black X’s on cans of FORMULA to keep the goldbricks from returning them for cash and essentially stealing the food from their own babies mouths! I don’t care what color you are. That shit is WRONG and so is buying Starbucks.

Jondrea Smith January 25, 2012 - 10:41 AM

I think one thing you have to consider about the ‘goldbricks,’ as you call them, is the fact that they’ve got two perfectly good babyfood producers right there on their chests, but I have never seen an Anatomy and Physiology book point to that organ in the human species that functions as a built-in ATM. It may have been rightfully frustrated to you, but your frustrations do not warrant your assumptions. We have to catch ourselves lest we fall into the dog-whistle rhetoric of the ‘conservative right,’ that everybody who we think is gaming the system is doing so out of laziness or because of some lack of moral fiber. The truth may be something wholly other. First and foremost, if they were lazy they wouldn’t be hustling. We also have to reserve some of our ire for the system that precipitates the necessity to hustle the grocery store for disposable income. There is no merit badge for piety, especially when you’re ‘doing right by the system,’ but sitting at home in the dark. Now if they are selling their stamps or returning formula and neglecting the kids, then yes they should be sanctioned in a way that does not punish their children, but we should take the time to ascertain the facts of their situation before we pass judgment.

Anne November 4, 2013 - 9:26 PM

This is my first time to this site and I am definitely going to read more. OMG, I totally agree with you about the breast feeding, but I had to just say A++ on your vocabulary, girl!

Angry Educated Mom January 24, 2012 - 9:47 PM

I am a single mom of four kids. Three at home. I work full time and make 40k a year. I get foodstamps. I worked my way thru college with kids at home. I have worked 3 jobs at once. Daycare is 700+ a month for one child. My oldest then watches my youngest daughter after school. I can barely make ends meet and any problem is a major disaster meaning mortgage or something else doesnt get paid. Hell yes I have bought a sheet cake for my kids for their birthday with foodstamps. I work hard everyday and your saying my kids cant have a store bought cake. I have also bought rib eye when on sale too! Right now my freezer is full my 400 a month goes far. You know why because I shop sales. I dont run to the store on the first or with cash to buy anything. I buy 10lb bags chix quarters at Wegmans $5.90, bonelss chix breast 1.99lb or less. I buy sugar in bulk, I buy pork shoulders and cut it up. Rice is on sale I am buying a bunch, noodles they mine. Frozen vegetables the cart is full. I bake bread make dishes from scratch most days with a few fillers. The point is shop on sale and you can eat well on foodstamps so since my freezer is full of chicken, veggies, pork roast, etc we can splurge when the rib eye goes on sale. FYI I did this with cash too.

Oh yes I am black and work dang hard for all I have, I have been thru a lot in my life and I hate when people blame others for their problems. This country is where it is from the Bush economics because when he came into office there was a surplus (fyi Clinton did that) when he left and I even voted for Bush once there was a deficit. Stop blaming Obama. There is more corporate welfare out there then poor people welfare. I know companies that get away with being woman owned businesses, and small businesses because they split their ownership to their wife who never works just to qualify for gov’t contracts. Lets not forget the bailouts and tax breaks. I have white friends on foodstamps, I had two different white neighbors in affordable housing one living with her husband who worked full time but she was a stay at home welfare mom. The other was a pain pill popping single mom who got welfare to pay all her bills and barely fed or clothed her child the rest of us in the complex did that because we felt bad for the little girl.

There are lots of fraud but the program does help people who are trying like my disabled friend who has two kids. It helped me when one of my children had cancer and I couldnt work full time. The problem is two fold stereotypes and the people who buy into them and the system itself. It penalizes people for trying. If I had affordable childcare I wouldnt need foodstamps and would be able to pay more of my bills. I know if I didnt have kids I wouldnt have this problem well here’s a stereotype I dont believe in abortion as many white people do then find they cant have kids and need invitro after they meet mister perfect.

I work hard day in and day out. I struggle to pay bills and dont always succeed. I help friends who are struggling but make too much for assistance. I was on WIC and breastfed so I got tons of milk we didnt drink I gave it to friends and neighbors who are struggling. Even now when I know of someone friend, associate, neighbor who is struggling if my freezer is full I will take them to the store using my foodstamps. If I have none left I will give them what I have at home. No one in this country of abundance should go hungry. Just like no one who has cancer should not have good treatment options. Unfortunately there are so many people thinking someone else is getting over who is just as bad off as me or a few checks away that spout nonsense like some of the comments here. Honey your just a job or two, health problem or bad stock market away from being me. Sad to say when those haves find themselves facing my life they tend to jump out the window literally because they don’t know how to make a dollar out of 15 cents.

Minks November 5, 2013 - 6:42 PM

Drops the mic….. And walks off!!!! You told it like it T I Is!!! You Handle your business!!!!
I don’t understand why people think one can’t buy a coffe or a birthday cake cause that person is on stamps… Ridiculous

Roxie April 16, 2012 - 9:05 AM

Please forgive me if i am wrong, but isn’t it true that you can’t buy paper products, soap. cleaning products and Vitamins? But now they are allowing people to get Starbucks Coffee.That’s a luxury not a necessity. I am not on welfare but I am pretty sure if I was I would want to be allowed to buy some Toilet paper and soap before some darn coffee. Oh and I am pretty sure a guy brought Cigarettes with his ebt card where at my job. Once again please correct me if I am wrong.

Angry Educated Mom April 18, 2012 - 9:36 PM

Your right I would rather buy toliet paper, paper towels or even diapers with my foodstamps. I know people who get $600-1000 a month in food stamps. Even with six kids they dont need all that food but they are definitely short on bill money, toilet paper, paper towels and other necessary items so they may sale their stamps (take someone to store for .50 on the dollar) to get those things for their household. When I lived in Mississippi I received $190 in cash a month for three kids (one infant) while I looked for work and went to school BUT I received almost $500 a month in food stamps. I used to have almost half left a month in food stamps as I shop frugally but had to get my mom and kids grandmother to send money for pampers. We didn’t buy paper towels which was a want at the time not a need.

So the point your post emphasized is the system is broken which sets people up to break the law (sale food stamps) to get by.

Lo June 2, 2012 - 2:50 AM

I liked some of what you say especially the government’s role in high prices for healthy food but not all of it..as an African immigrant who came to the US with nothing, poorer than the people in the ghettos but have gone on to be successful through HARD WORK, I fail to sympathize with black Americans who still today want to play the slavery card “country built on our backs”…it wasnt your back. You have soo many resources, free education and etc to change your socioeconomic circumstances. Millions of immigrants are coming in worst conditions than you and they are the ones representing the minority classes in colleges across the US and going on to become the middle class of america while you continue to sit in the ghettos and complain. Own up to your irresponsibilit(ies)

Erika Nicole Kendall June 2, 2012 - 4:46 PM

“…it wasn’t built on YOUR back.”

Mama, I appreciate you in your benevolent Africanness coming and sharing your perspective, but stop with the foolishness. This country and its economy was built with the unpaid labor of African slaves. That is, without question, on the back of Blacks. We can talk about what that means for the descendents of slaves and slave-owners, or we can talk about what that resulted in for people – like immigrants – who are able to benefit from the resources present here. But to deny the impact that unpaid labor has on the evolution of a country’s economy denies not only Black Americans the right to both our struggles and our victories, but it denies the importance of the very real and present problem of unpaid labor in this country TODAY.

Yes, even with all our resources, free education and etc, not everyone is granted the same quality of such – money makes a difference – and some of us work jobs and don’t even get the pennies we rightfully earned…. even when we were the embodiment of HARD WORK, as you so eloquently put it.

You get to have your own opinion, and I love to see differing ones appear here! You don’t get to create your own facts. Not ever.

Also: “hard work” is not exclusive to Africans or exclusive OF Black Americans. I could run down my own resume, but the fact that you found MY blog and were granted space to share YOUR slightly bigoted opinion because of MY hard work seems like plenty.

Also: Let’s stop playing games here. In order to migrate from one country o another means you not only had MAJOR resources, but MAJOR connections. Which means you could be pennies in the couch poor, and still do fine. “Poor people in the ghettoes” can’t say the same. Do you even KNOW any poor people in the ghettoes? ROFL

Angered Barista December 28, 2012 - 1:53 PM

Funny how we seem to forget native Americans that were killed and took over their land when they worked so hard to establish food sources. Or the hundreds if not thousands of Mexican immigrants being paid under the table at less than minimum wage to provide what little money they can send home to their families. My grandfather immigrated here from Spain at 7, never learned to read and write but worked till his dying day, which was 2 weeks ago, to provide a better future for his kids and grand kids. And never once took a handout from anyone, government or otherwise. He used what he had till it broke, fixed it and used it again till it couldn’t be fixed.
But that’s overshadowed by people again with a chip in their shoulder about something that happens hundreds of years ago and didn’t even happen to them.

Erika Nicole Kendall December 28, 2012 - 2:45 PM

Do you think the only people on government assistance are these mythical “people with chips on their shoulder about something that happens hundreds of years ago and didn’t even happen to them?”

Are you really comparing Blacks to Native Americans, who DO, in fact, receive government assistance? Both parties who, if you want to be REALLY nasty about this, were victimized by colonizers who were too lazy to do their own work? Both parties who BOTH are living with the ramifications of the actions of said colonizers TODAY? LMAO

Are you really attempting to compare Blacks to Mexican Immigrants, being paid under the table because they are, assumedly, undocumented? I’m sorry, but Black Americans are, in fact, AMERICANS. CITIZENS. THAT is why they’re not “taking handouts.” As undocumented immigrants, they COULDN’T even if they NEEDED it. LMAOOOOO

You are really struggling with the racism today, my dear, but you’ll need to go struggle with it ELSEWHERE and stop wasting my bandwidth and server space with your sorrowful logic. Leave. Stop reading my comment. Go pick up a book. ANY book. And don’t come back until you do. In fact… just don’t come back. At. All.

WOOOO LMAO The struggle with the logic! I can’t take it! LMAO!

Angered Barista December 29, 2012 - 9:04 PM

It’s not a mythical chip when YOU’RE the one assuming that everything bad always happens to black people. “Oh, they’re talking bad about people abusing food stamps. I bet they think they’re black. Let me blog about it”.

Erika Nicole Kendall December 30, 2012 - 12:03 AM

“It’s not a mythical chip when YOU’RE the one assuming that everything bad always happens to black people. “

Oh, of course — I totally said that.

” “Oh, they’re talking bad about people abusing food stamps. I bet they think they’re black. Let me blog about it”.”

You know, considering how the last comment that you left on this post implied that Blacks were, in fact, the only ones using and, assumedly, abusing government assistance programs… you’re not really doing much justice to your argument that it’s wrong for me to assume that people who are “talking bad about people abusing food stamps” might be referring to Blacks.

Bye, now. *waves*

Shelby July 19, 2013 - 12:22 PM

Wow, agree with me or get off my site?! If you’re going to write on a public internet site then you need to realize there will be people posting on said site who may not agree with you. Pretty close minded of you to not allow them to respond to something YOU wrote on a public site. I guess you could just blog and then check the box in your admin part where you don’t allow any comments.

Erika Nicole Kendall July 20, 2013 - 10:45 PM

“Wow, agree with me or get off my site?!”

Yes. Because that’s EXACTLY what I said to her. Critical thinking.

“If you’re going to write on a public internet site then you need to realize there will be people posting on said site who may not agree with you.”

Actually, believe it or not, I not only realize it – I even sometimes approve those comments and let their disagreements stand. Because the world doesn’t stop spinning simply because someone disagrees.

If you’d had your thinking cap on, you would’ve read that my problem wasn’t with a mere disagreement. You get to have your own opinion. You don’t get to ignore facts. And, when you choose to cling to your ridiculous little – yes, little – opinion in the face of FACT proving otherwise, YOU need to realize that I’m well within my right to acknowledge you as close-minded, and decide to disengage.

“I guess you could just blog and then check the box in your admin part where you don’t allow any comments.”

I do what I want. You don’t like it, YOU can decide to not visit and, even better, not comment. You wanna enable some idiot who’s hellbent on clinging to her “but the Blax! the Blax! They were born evil and poor and needy” bullshit, do it somewhere else. Neither I, nor anyone else who deigns to pick up a book or read something other than a propaganda pamphlet, have the patience.

It’s always funny – people comment on my blog to complain about how I handle comments on my blog. You obviously have SOME faith in me…unless your need to deliver my metaphorical comeuppance is THAT great. ROFL

Angry Educated Mom July 23, 2013 - 9:49 AM

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/07/julias-mother-why-a-single-mom-is-better-off-on-welfare-than-taking-a-69000-a-year-job/

This is why its cheaper for a mom to stay on welfare but the sad fact is that in some states welfare pays more then minimum wage. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa240es.html

Also most modern day legal immigrants have a cash wad behind them. They also come to the US with the intentions of working and sending their higher valued US money home. I as a single mom have worked three jobs. Recently my family became no longer eligible for state medical benefits so I now have a $4000 a year deductible insurance so no one goes to the doctors or ER. I work full time am college educated and returning for masters. I dont make enough to pay my bills and cant seem to get ahead at my job. Do I take a 2nd job and let my kids raise themselves? Oh my oldest is in college and I make too much for finanical aid so she has to take out loans. Get real there are plenty hard working african americans aka blacks but we continually get the short end of the stick as I watch caucasion men and woman get raises and promotions for my work

Minnie December 20, 2013 - 10:43 PM

Uh, “Shelby,” since Erika pays for the hosting and writes the content for this blog, she owns it, technically making her blog a private space. Yes, it’s published or public consumption, but you can say the same for newspapers. A newspaper might publish content for comment, but publishers still own, control and decide what is published. If they deem something unacceptable, they retain the right to publish that content. And the only time they give “equal time” is in a political election, and to be honest, they don’t even do it now. The same holds true for the electronic comment sections of papers where they refuse to publish any comments they deem unacceptable. It happens on corporate sites too like Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble and other sites that regularly bar comments that violate their community standards.

You might argue that you have the first amendment right to air your dissenting opinion. Yeah you do, on your own space, that you own. Not here, since she owns this space. The people accusing her of being bigoted are the ones who visit sites like this to air their grievances, because I guess it takes big balls to remain anonymous behind a computer screen and air your real opinion. How brave.

It’s amazing how the same arrogant people (some who claim to be diehard Christians, when Christ would give the shirt off His back to help others) are the same ones who call programs like SNAP entitlement programs. Yet these same arrogant people feel “entitled” to be able to air their ignorance wherever and whenever they want. Just because your loud, doesn’t make you stronger, or better, or more moral than others, because like many people your one paycheck or disaster away from being on SNAP.

I know too many people who have full time jobs, and hard workers (sometimes working two or three jobs) who still cannot make ends meet and need SNAP. And these are people with two incomes. Some have been impacted by childcare and high medical bills.

The people who judge those on SNAP need to take a good look at their souls. If you have never had to rely on SNAP consider yourself lucky. There are many people who are going hungry in this country, and not out of laziness or from not wanting to work, it’s because they can’t afford to feed themselves and live. You haven’t walked a day in their shoes. You should be ashamed.

Erika Nicole Kendall December 21, 2013 - 6:27 PM

Whew, talk about dressed DOWN! <3

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